Excellent. "The courage to admit the harmful nature of these interventions is beyond the reach of many institutions." You seem to be providing people and organizations the way to opt out if they lack the courage to do it in a more vocal/public way. My daughter was medicalized without any treatment for her underlying comorbidities and distress, which of course follow her into her drug and surgery altered body. I wrote a book about it and write on Substack, so I have developed courage to speak up. That being said, I will take any and all strategies to help other parents and kids not medicalized gender identities. It is too late for my daughter and my family, but I still work for other kids and their families. Thank you for the work you do.
Other radical Progressive policies and beliefs follow the same arc. In large part due to the work of Substack writers, gender ideology will (hopefully) be "memory holed" in a few years. No one will own up to their blind acceptance of this irrational dogma. They'll say it was a few extremists or just deny that the mania ever existed.
No, I wouldn't make that comparison. I'd suggest you approach any extreme claim with some skepticism. If you care about a topic, do some research. If you are relying on one individual or outlet you are probably getting it wrong.
This is an important option, although certainly should not be the "goal" or the only option. We need to continue every means of preventing unnecessary medical interventions that cause harm. We need to change attitudes, bring awareness, stop medical malpractice and compensate all those who have been harmed.
That having been said, quietly walking back the care is a good option for many institutions afraid to admit they have been actively engaging in malpractice (makes sense from a risk perspective).
I think insurance companies are a key component here. They can slow this down by simply refusing to cover "care" that has no medical basis, or at least require a higher standard of proof. (Right now there is no standard of proof from what I can see; it's just "sure, if it relates to 'gender affirming care,' we'll cover it all!") Medicaid is included here. If life-saving medication can be denied to those with rare and deadly diseases (look up San Filippo Syndrome - experimental drugs were actually helping these children and then the funding ended) due to being "experimental," why are insurance companies covering the removal of healthy body parts and the interference with the delicate endocrine balance in healthy individuals simply because people want it?
On the other hand, all detransitioners deserve full and unquestioned coverage to repair the damage done to their bodies at every front. The insurance companies can then sue the doctors who caused the harm to recover the costs of these treatments.
While I hope we one day can point the finger at every single individual and entity that contributed to this horrific medical scandal and sick social experiment, assuring that nothing like this ever happens again (and that includes politicians, medical organizations, journalists, professors, etc.), for now I am happy for any strategy that helps prevent more vulnerable individuals from being harmed. If quiet quitting can keep some naive young people healthy, I'm all for it.
You make so many excellent points. I have wondered why insurance companies are getting off with so little scrutiny when they routinely deny even established treatments for common conditions that can be objectively measured and diagnosed. Or demand that insurance companies answer why they won't cover detransition care when people like Jack Turban are calling it just another part of the "gender journey." They need to go on record for why one part of the gender journey is covered but other parts aren't. It seems past time that insurance companies get the spotlight put on them and forced to answer these questions
Good to know that “quiet quitting” is an off-ramp for gender clinics and clinicians who don’t want to risk liability and social opprobrium by admitting publicly that they have been actively harming children and young people. Unfortunately, I don’t think we’re ever going to see the equivalent of a “truth and reconciliation” forum to hold perpetrators to account. So perhaps our best hope is that “quiet quitting” will
make a substantive difference to the numbers of minors receiving “gender affirming care” (aka “conversion therapy” for the body).
As for the article. Very good. And it brings something to attention to that can easily be overlooked (if detected at all).
First a few words on my background: I am transgender. And I will say that some of you who think you are protecting a child and young adult actually just don't get it. Shutting down the system for them causes harm and there's no two ways about it. Do you think I chose to be transgender? Yes I suppose when it comes down to it I'm making a "choice" to take hormones. And that choice costs me every time I go to the pharmacy. Because all my medicines are zero copay and except for the transgender ones here in Florida. But the meds are just part of my care and what's required for me to move closer to further self-acceptance and well-being. So whether something is a choice can be debated. My God you really do not understand what a transgender condition is. And how (legitimate) patients need to be given the proper medical support for this condition. Again, it is about living a meaningful, healthy, and happy life. Not perfect. But just a life that is free from heavy drinking or drug use and self-loathing/ self-hate. The proper Medical Care for transgender patients ensures that they can live the rest of their lives as at least somewhat happy & productive people in the world; with an increased congruity as to their gender identity ( instead of a lifetime of internal battles and internalized hate; because the society rejects them as people, and frankly, as human beings. And they largely reject the notion of being transgender). But I believe the vast majority of transgender people can become comfortable with themselves and, dare I, say happy, beautiful and highly productive. I know this because I've seen it in myself and others.
And I'll give you some proof of the article's relevance in my own travels. My University of Miami LGBTQIA+ Clinic is nowhere. It's all scaled down. The web page doesn't lead to any actual care. The only transgender care I get here is my hormones from a very caring and wonderful woman gynecologist. But I'm not even offered therapy through the University of Miami or other transitioning support. Surgeries are not happening here right now. So the article talks about something very real. This is not just made up in our minds. Some of you just do not see from the perspective of a transgender person. You see it through your own eyes. This is the problem we have with much disagreement in this world.
Excellent. "The courage to admit the harmful nature of these interventions is beyond the reach of many institutions." You seem to be providing people and organizations the way to opt out if they lack the courage to do it in a more vocal/public way. My daughter was medicalized without any treatment for her underlying comorbidities and distress, which of course follow her into her drug and surgery altered body. I wrote a book about it and write on Substack, so I have developed courage to speak up. That being said, I will take any and all strategies to help other parents and kids not medicalized gender identities. It is too late for my daughter and my family, but I still work for other kids and their families. Thank you for the work you do.
Other radical Progressive policies and beliefs follow the same arc. In large part due to the work of Substack writers, gender ideology will (hopefully) be "memory holed" in a few years. No one will own up to their blind acceptance of this irrational dogma. They'll say it was a few extremists or just deny that the mania ever existed.
It will be like migrants in Ohio eating cats and dogs. “Never happened. Certainly not in my institution. Right-wing fake news.”
Oh for heaven’s sake, people. Lighten up.
Do you believe they are eating cats and dogs?
No, I wouldn't make that comparison. I'd suggest you approach any extreme claim with some skepticism. If you care about a topic, do some research. If you are relying on one individual or outlet you are probably getting it wrong.
This is an important option, although certainly should not be the "goal" or the only option. We need to continue every means of preventing unnecessary medical interventions that cause harm. We need to change attitudes, bring awareness, stop medical malpractice and compensate all those who have been harmed.
That having been said, quietly walking back the care is a good option for many institutions afraid to admit they have been actively engaging in malpractice (makes sense from a risk perspective).
I think insurance companies are a key component here. They can slow this down by simply refusing to cover "care" that has no medical basis, or at least require a higher standard of proof. (Right now there is no standard of proof from what I can see; it's just "sure, if it relates to 'gender affirming care,' we'll cover it all!") Medicaid is included here. If life-saving medication can be denied to those with rare and deadly diseases (look up San Filippo Syndrome - experimental drugs were actually helping these children and then the funding ended) due to being "experimental," why are insurance companies covering the removal of healthy body parts and the interference with the delicate endocrine balance in healthy individuals simply because people want it?
On the other hand, all detransitioners deserve full and unquestioned coverage to repair the damage done to their bodies at every front. The insurance companies can then sue the doctors who caused the harm to recover the costs of these treatments.
While I hope we one day can point the finger at every single individual and entity that contributed to this horrific medical scandal and sick social experiment, assuring that nothing like this ever happens again (and that includes politicians, medical organizations, journalists, professors, etc.), for now I am happy for any strategy that helps prevent more vulnerable individuals from being harmed. If quiet quitting can keep some naive young people healthy, I'm all for it.
You make so many excellent points. I have wondered why insurance companies are getting off with so little scrutiny when they routinely deny even established treatments for common conditions that can be objectively measured and diagnosed. Or demand that insurance companies answer why they won't cover detransition care when people like Jack Turban are calling it just another part of the "gender journey." They need to go on record for why one part of the gender journey is covered but other parts aren't. It seems past time that insurance companies get the spotlight put on them and forced to answer these questions
You can use https://web.archive.org to document websites of gender clinics and their retreat.
That’s a great suggestion. LGBCC, do you have the resources to put someone on this?
Not a bad approach !
Good to know that “quiet quitting” is an off-ramp for gender clinics and clinicians who don’t want to risk liability and social opprobrium by admitting publicly that they have been actively harming children and young people. Unfortunately, I don’t think we’re ever going to see the equivalent of a “truth and reconciliation” forum to hold perpetrators to account. So perhaps our best hope is that “quiet quitting” will
make a substantive difference to the numbers of minors receiving “gender affirming care” (aka “conversion therapy” for the body).
GreAT ARTICLE!!!
As for the article. Very good. And it brings something to attention to that can easily be overlooked (if detected at all).
First a few words on my background: I am transgender. And I will say that some of you who think you are protecting a child and young adult actually just don't get it. Shutting down the system for them causes harm and there's no two ways about it. Do you think I chose to be transgender? Yes I suppose when it comes down to it I'm making a "choice" to take hormones. And that choice costs me every time I go to the pharmacy. Because all my medicines are zero copay and except for the transgender ones here in Florida. But the meds are just part of my care and what's required for me to move closer to further self-acceptance and well-being. So whether something is a choice can be debated. My God you really do not understand what a transgender condition is. And how (legitimate) patients need to be given the proper medical support for this condition. Again, it is about living a meaningful, healthy, and happy life. Not perfect. But just a life that is free from heavy drinking or drug use and self-loathing/ self-hate. The proper Medical Care for transgender patients ensures that they can live the rest of their lives as at least somewhat happy & productive people in the world; with an increased congruity as to their gender identity ( instead of a lifetime of internal battles and internalized hate; because the society rejects them as people, and frankly, as human beings. And they largely reject the notion of being transgender). But I believe the vast majority of transgender people can become comfortable with themselves and, dare I, say happy, beautiful and highly productive. I know this because I've seen it in myself and others.
And I'll give you some proof of the article's relevance in my own travels. My University of Miami LGBTQIA+ Clinic is nowhere. It's all scaled down. The web page doesn't lead to any actual care. The only transgender care I get here is my hormones from a very caring and wonderful woman gynecologist. But I'm not even offered therapy through the University of Miami or other transitioning support. Surgeries are not happening here right now. So the article talks about something very real. This is not just made up in our minds. Some of you just do not see from the perspective of a transgender person. You see it through your own eyes. This is the problem we have with much disagreement in this world.