Can someone explain how I’m not supposed to worry about it! Seriously! This worries me very much. I’m sorry I don’t mean to be purposely ignorant but I still don’t understand what non-binary means. I understand being trans, that makes sense. Non-binary is very confusing. I’m just being honest I never heard about NB until 2016.
This is propaganda not mental health care and with the serious medical interventions involved...someone with gravitas needs to say “no matter how careful screenings are and no matter how much careful exploratory therapy one gets...no one can say a person will not regret making permanent changes to their bodies and possibly being sterile for life”. But at least an adult has the ability to use fully developed brains and complex cognitive thinking skills. Kids can’t decide if they want Fruit Loops or Coco Puffs for breakfast...not that I condone sugar cereals but it’s better than some testosterone, estrogen, puberty blockers and possibly surgery.
I do believe there are mentally healthy trans adults. I know a few but they are different than kids and spent some time weighing pros and cons. Its called life experience and even then some adults regret but at they chose to make changes not some creepy clinic worker using weaponized empathy to manipulate parents. It’s not like deciding if a kid wants to wear Vans vs Converse to school. This is so sad.
“Complex gender identify. Just don’t worry about it!
Can you pls how not to worry? I’m extremely worried. Does it involve lots of alcoholic beverages? Idk 🤷♀️
To be clear I think Aaron Kimberly has gravitas (and moral courage) we need a 7 Nation Army to get out there and even if someone is scared it doesn’t mean they aren’t brave. All the docs who know this is wrong but are afraid for their jobs and reputation, all the liberal Democrats who can’t tell say what they really think, etc. Things are changing and when this all comes out...well its coming and it’s going to be a tsunami.
My own experience when I brought my then almost 14-year-old daughter to one of these places shortly before Covid hit (which worked out because I didn't have to argue with my daughter about why we were never going back) matches this training. She shyly asked the person at the counter what name she was supposed to put on the form. The lady loudly proclaimed: "Use your chosen name, as we will NEVER use your DEAD NAME!" She had literally just met my daughter 2 seconds earlier, but somehow knew she had a "dead name." The counselor was no better. I asked him how many people who come to this place end up following through with medical interventions. He said that basically everyone does. He then explained so patiently and sweetly that, although this may seem surprising, and he would have thought not everyone would follow through himself, in fact, everyone who comes here knows who they are. He explained that this made sense to him once he realized it was just like being gay - which he was - and so, of course, these people were very sure of what they wanted. I just smiled politely, and left as quickly as possible, a sickening feeling in my stomach. There was no point having a debate with someone so steeped in ideology - and I knew we would never be going back.
Omg wow. The thing mothers have to deal with protect our kids could be a dystopian novel but it’s too real. My heart sank when I read your comment. Wow. Deadname is never ok. They give zero cares about how a mother feels when hearing the oh carefully chosen name of my daughter is now a slur and a deadname. This is parent abuse. But you don’t have time to think about that yourself bc you (I) are just to get your daughter from away from those weirdos asap and back to the safety of home. ♥️
No. She used one of those apps for text therapy for a few months that, as she stated, did nothing. Then I held off. After she took illegal testosterone gel for 3 months last summer (age 16), which I discovered and immediately put to a stop, she asked for therapy. I found someone I thought might be neutral and exploratory, but she was also pretty steeped in ideology, and tried repeatedly to get me to come aboard, proclaiming that my concerns about medical intervention were all fear-based, and that she and I both couldn't possibly understand what my daughter was going through because "we're cis." Luckily, my daughter became busy with the school play and musical and then no longer had any interest in therapy, so that therapist only lasted about 3 months. Instead, she's taking voice lessons (which is good because the testosterone gel made her voice froggy and she now cracks where she didn't before). I wish I could find a therapist like Sasha Ayad or Stella O'Malley - but, at this point, I think maturity and life are the best potential ways for her to figure out that she doesn't need to pretend she is male and chemically and surgically alter her appearance in order to achieve happiness.
Except that my 15 year old daughter is better writer. She knows how to edit and doesn’t put stickers and rainbow emojis on everything. Or add trite sayings that make sense to zero people. Puppies and kitties are being used with malicious intent.
Can someone explain how I’m not supposed to worry about it! Seriously! This worries me very much. I’m sorry I don’t mean to be purposely ignorant but I still don’t understand what non-binary means. I understand being trans, that makes sense. Non-binary is very confusing. I’m just being honest I never heard about NB until 2016.
This is propaganda not mental health care and with the serious medical interventions involved...someone with gravitas needs to say “no matter how careful screenings are and no matter how much careful exploratory therapy one gets...no one can say a person will not regret making permanent changes to their bodies and possibly being sterile for life”. But at least an adult has the ability to use fully developed brains and complex cognitive thinking skills. Kids can’t decide if they want Fruit Loops or Coco Puffs for breakfast...not that I condone sugar cereals but it’s better than some testosterone, estrogen, puberty blockers and possibly surgery.
I do believe there are mentally healthy trans adults. I know a few but they are different than kids and spent some time weighing pros and cons. Its called life experience and even then some adults regret but at they chose to make changes not some creepy clinic worker using weaponized empathy to manipulate parents. It’s not like deciding if a kid wants to wear Vans vs Converse to school. This is so sad.
“Complex gender identify. Just don’t worry about it!
Can you pls how not to worry? I’m extremely worried. Does it involve lots of alcoholic beverages? Idk 🤷♀️
To be clear I think Aaron Kimberly has gravitas (and moral courage) we need a 7 Nation Army to get out there and even if someone is scared it doesn’t mean they aren’t brave. All the docs who know this is wrong but are afraid for their jobs and reputation, all the liberal Democrats who can’t tell say what they really think, etc. Things are changing and when this all comes out...well its coming and it’s going to be a tsunami.
My own experience when I brought my then almost 14-year-old daughter to one of these places shortly before Covid hit (which worked out because I didn't have to argue with my daughter about why we were never going back) matches this training. She shyly asked the person at the counter what name she was supposed to put on the form. The lady loudly proclaimed: "Use your chosen name, as we will NEVER use your DEAD NAME!" She had literally just met my daughter 2 seconds earlier, but somehow knew she had a "dead name." The counselor was no better. I asked him how many people who come to this place end up following through with medical interventions. He said that basically everyone does. He then explained so patiently and sweetly that, although this may seem surprising, and he would have thought not everyone would follow through himself, in fact, everyone who comes here knows who they are. He explained that this made sense to him once he realized it was just like being gay - which he was - and so, of course, these people were very sure of what they wanted. I just smiled politely, and left as quickly as possible, a sickening feeling in my stomach. There was no point having a debate with someone so steeped in ideology - and I knew we would never be going back.
Omg wow. The thing mothers have to deal with protect our kids could be a dystopian novel but it’s too real. My heart sank when I read your comment. Wow. Deadname is never ok. They give zero cares about how a mother feels when hearing the oh carefully chosen name of my daughter is now a slur and a deadname. This is parent abuse. But you don’t have time to think about that yourself bc you (I) are just to get your daughter from away from those weirdos asap and back to the safety of home. ♥️
I hope things are going ok for you and your daughter. Did you manage to find good exploratory care?
No. She used one of those apps for text therapy for a few months that, as she stated, did nothing. Then I held off. After she took illegal testosterone gel for 3 months last summer (age 16), which I discovered and immediately put to a stop, she asked for therapy. I found someone I thought might be neutral and exploratory, but she was also pretty steeped in ideology, and tried repeatedly to get me to come aboard, proclaiming that my concerns about medical intervention were all fear-based, and that she and I both couldn't possibly understand what my daughter was going through because "we're cis." Luckily, my daughter became busy with the school play and musical and then no longer had any interest in therapy, so that therapist only lasted about 3 months. Instead, she's taking voice lessons (which is good because the testosterone gel made her voice froggy and she now cracks where she didn't before). I wish I could find a therapist like Sasha Ayad or Stella O'Malley - but, at this point, I think maturity and life are the best potential ways for her to figure out that she doesn't need to pretend she is male and chemically and surgically alter her appearance in order to achieve happiness.
I want to cry for you and give you a big hug.
I think you're obviously doing a brilliant job - you're buying her the time she needs to grow out of it (old fashioned phrase but so true).
I do sense that the spell is beginning to break amongst many young people.
I'll think of you both - stay strong.
The "no assessment needed" is key evidence of legal liability.
These guidelines read like they were written by a 15 year old.
Except that my 15 year old daughter is better writer. She knows how to edit and doesn’t put stickers and rainbow emojis on everything. Or add trite sayings that make sense to zero people. Puppies and kitties are being used with malicious intent.